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arliss ([personal profile] arliss) wrote2005-09-23 05:31 pm

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Free Will Astrology horoscope for Pisces:

"Belief is the end of intelligence," says philosopher Robert Anton Wilson. The moment you become attached to an opinion or theory, no matter how good or true or beautiful it might seem, you're no longer fully open to the mysteries that life brings you. Your perceptiveness wanes and your understanding shrinks. This is always important to keep in mind, of course, but especially so this week. A wave of raw truth is headed your way, and yet you will miss it completely unless you take a vacation from your beliefs about the way the world works.

Huh. 'Splains a lot about me.

[identity profile] debg.livejournal.com 2005-09-23 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
In light of my own latest lj entry?

Jeeeez.
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[personal profile] fufaraw 2005-09-23 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh I *have* firmly held opinions. I was just sort of openmouthed at the "belief is the end of intelligence" in light of all the fundieness coming to the forefront these days. I have been known to clutch rather desperately and dramatically to my bosom "my version" of a theory, or recollected facts. And when I loosened the panic grip a little, was able to see from another perspective or three, and understand that practically nothing is set in stone. It's sort of odd to live in freefall, and as I said, I do have some firmly held opinions.

Tread lightly. Do good. Don't hurt. Feed. I think those will support just about anybody and not harm either the planet or my fellow beings. Other than that, though? Everything's negotiable. It's not comfortable, but it's the only way I've developed that keeps me sane and moving forward.

[identity profile] debg.livejournal.com 2005-09-23 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Tread lightly. Do good. Don't hurt. Feed. I think those will support just about anybody and not harm either the planet or my fellow beings.

But those are all subjective in interpretation and open to misuse and downright abuse. There are people who think it's good to set people on fire for the good of their souls. Who decides?

I can't be too open in where I stand, because I tend to be one of those annoying "go out and do" types. I get impatient with the high-minded talk and I want to go out and do something.

And if I'm doing something from ethical or moral or emotional boggy ground? I'd be in deep doodoo.
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[personal profile] fufaraw 2005-09-23 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Um. I see where the concrete can be needful. I think I have a firm moral center, although it's quite left of where a lot of people's moral center is. So I don't worry so much about my motives harming others. Although plenty of people feel exactly the same way about their own motives, and I worry about them.

So you're saying we all need a firmly spelled out creed, so everybody else knows where we stand? So our kinks and tics are labeled and thus avoidable by those they'd harm?

Do I make you nuts by being amorphous and wafty? I probably do and I'm very sorry. I expect you to know what ground my feet are on, though, and not worry about motive and method where I'm concerned.

[identity profile] debg.livejournal.com 2005-09-23 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
No, no! NOT saying that about a creed at all.

I'm saying *I* need one. The only person on this planet I have any right whatsoever to speak for is me.

I was responding to your take, but only as it applies to me.